Re: Confusion: Sponsoring entity and Champions

On 9/20/2011 8:18 PM, sebb wrote:
> On 20 September 2011 18:50, Robert Burrell Donkin
> <robertburrelldonkin@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Tue, Sep 20, 2011 at 5:46 PM, Christian Grobmeier
>> <grobmeier@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> On Tue, Sep 20, 2011 at 5:56 PM, Bertrand Delacretaz
>>> <bdelacretaz@apache.org> wrote:
>>>> On Tue, Sep 20, 2011 at 5:46 PM, Martijn Dashorst
>>>> <martijn.dashorst@gmail.com> wrote:
...snip...

> If there is no Champion, who is responsible for driving the process
> forward initially?

Bingo. The reason for a Champion IMO is to have a single person willing
to coordinate and drive the process. Call it "First Mentor among
Mentors" if you like, call it whatever.

But to me Champion (as a word meaning) is the person who champions the
idea: the one person who will push and organize and drive the rest of
the group to accept the idea and signup to help the idea. They don't
need to be coders or even plan to work personally on the code; they're
more the one voice that gets a number of other volunteers to commit to
also agreeing to help the project join and move forward.

I think it should be mandatory, but in most cases it should be simple to
fill. Either the existing team behind the proposal already has someone
with experience in Apache stuff, or there's some mentor who's clearly
willing to step up to be champion.

> Once the PPMC is up and running, that becomes less of an issue.

Correct - hopefully at that point the PPMC and mentors together have
enough of a commitment and working relationship that they can succeed
together.

>
> Do PPMCs have chairs?
> If not, then maybe the Champion fulfils that role until eventual
> graduation; otherwise they fulfil the role until the PPMC elects a
> chair.

I really thought PPMCs have chairs! Otherwise how does the Incubator
PMC ensure that podlings report on time?

Yes, in any healthy community the (P)PMC as a whole can create reports
together. But the board looks to the chair (and VP) of a PMC to
actually get it done. Likewise, I'd think the Incubator PMC should look
to the chair (not a VP) of a PPMC to be the person who gets podling
reports done.

And yes, I'm happy with anyone here who wants to work at clarifying the
incubator documentation. 8-)

- Shane

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